So homework is to come up with 2 concept sketches. I went with Jim's suggestion to go diagonally and that actually really worked well: the design fell together with an ease. It puts the patio where we were thinking it would go, it moves the shed which I wanted to do to gain 12ft of backyard back and makes it a focal point (it would definitely need to be paintes and/or shingled) and it gives a view that diffuses all the house views as you are not looking directly at the house behind. Plus it allowed for a centred pond which fits in between the two huge white oaks (good?, bad?) which could be lawn until we get around to it.
Then I decided to have a go at a second layout when I realised that if we want to have vehicular access to the back yard for the tree guy then the patio can't go all the way into the corner. Man, that made it very hard, so I am still working on that concept. It's tempting to move it to the other side of the house more in the shade on the soil that doesn't support grass but I'm not sure that works and that side tends to have more potential tree root issues (unless it was raised - hmm, now there's a thought).
Also seeing as we just took down a 90ft white oak that cast a lot of shade, this next growing season will hopefully help the whole yard in the way of sun, breeze, less dampness etc.
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